tryin' to find reverse on a soviet tank
Last night was The Big Lebowski night at the LBC. Gary wasn't behind the bar to make our caucasians, so we had to manage, ourselves.
Every viewing (i lost count long ago) turns up something new:
In the beginning of the movie when The Dude writes his 69 cent check at Ralphs, he dates it Sept. 11, 1991 -- the ten year pre-anniversary of a fateful day -- just before we see George Bush (the first) on the television behind the cashier saying how Saddam's "aggression will not stand." The movie was made in 1998.
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oops my bad. i meant, "Johnson?"
-- dave (June 17, 2003 8:17 AM)
yeah... maybe it's not very good interface design to have the comments link at the top of the entry, eh?
-- jeff (June 17, 2003 12:37 PM)
I, too, am a regular lurker at The Dude's house. I never noticed that date before. Creepy, eh?
Now I want a caucasian to slurp. And a Phillip Seymour-Hoffman fix.
-- Kate S. (June 17, 2003 8:08 PM)
The 1st Gulf war was from August of 1990 to February of 1991. Also Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
Also the check was post dated, the actual day in the
movie was 9/9/91. "Tommorrow is already the 10th" -Marty
-- Dragon (February 3, 2004 2:55 PM)
> Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
Tell the current Bush that.
Anyway, I didn't say it did.
Thanks for the history lesson.
-- Jeff Schuler (February 3, 2004 3:04 PM)
Has anyone informed you that your webpage is named on the Tool website in regards to this topic? A fellow Lebowski fan noticed the same thing and wrote about the possibility of a conspiricy...
If you're a Tool fan you should find that pretty cool. Even if you're not, it's bringing some traffic to your site.
-- sarah (June 18, 2004 2:11 AM)
we see that this is nothing really its very dumb its nothing worthy of a site hmm should i care but i dont even answer we all see a little miracle inside of all kinds of bullshit
-- bob dole (June 18, 2004 7:03 AM)
Hey iraq has a connection with al qaeda not with 9-11 i never said that. you should be grateful for my invasion of iraq now a bunch of people (who ronald reagon did nothing to help during the genocidal actions of saddam) are gonna be free. Well you can believe me when i say we did not attack iraq to protect israel considering iraq couldnt hit USA with its weapons but could hit israel
I'm george w bush and i endorse this post
-- George w bush (June 18, 2004 7:06 AM)
Presumably then, there is some kind of historical misrepresentation in the film itself.
The Gulf war did indeed end in February of 1991. If the film is set in September of '91, the Bush speech must be taken out of context, because Bush was not actually that harshly critical of Saddam after the gulf war. In fact, it was Bush's decision to allow Saddam to continue in power '...in order to re-enforce the stability of the region'.
From a purely historical viewpoint, I think this particular conspiracy is just a bit of over-sensitive imagination.
-- Joe (June 18, 2004 9:54 AM)
i don't know who's the bigger idiot. the guy who takes the time to actually consider this a conspiracy theory (yes they hired some hollywood producers to put it into the movie just for a laugh b/c they knew it would happen...uh huh), or me for actually wasting 2 minutes looking at it on your site. ever heard of Coincidence Theory? it's a new line of thought being touted by people WHO ARE FIRMLY ENTRENCHED IN REALITY.
-- Elpayaso (June 18, 2004 11:50 AM)
i was pointed here from he tool web sight i am a fan of both tool and the"dude"flick i found the best reply to be the fact that the check was post dated for .69 cents the date was acually the ninth
-- post date (June 18, 2004 5:23 PM)
Why do you internet idiots always get so excited about conspiracy theories? Ever consider it was just a coincidence that he dated the check September 11? I can't believe you wasted your time making a webpage devoted to this cospiracy garbage. It's just a movie!!!.
TOOL ROCKS!!1
-- Sawyer (June 19, 2004 12:55 AM)
luck,bad luck, coincidence, or premeditated, there is alot of fucked up shit out there if you look hard enough, but maybe we're watching the wrong movies?
-- Dale Wardell (June 20, 2004 4:46 PM)
Here's another one for you conspiracy/coincidence/lebowski tools.
Turns out Jesus Quintana is a real sex offender. With a record:
http://www.co.lake.il.us/sheriff/Person/DetailSexOffender.asp?id=145
8 year-olds, dude.
found at The Meat of the Matter:
http://meatofthematter.blogspot.com/2004_05_01_meatofthematter_archive.html#108509631501428104
-- Jeff Schuler (June 22, 2004 12:36 AM)
I think that it's pretty funny that the sex offender description includes at the bottom, "Anyone who uses information contained in the Sex Offender List to commit a criminal act against another person is subject to criminal prosecution."
If I *don't* use the information to commit a criminal act against another person, then what?
asdf
-- Mack (June 24, 2004 1:52 AM)
You guys are all poop monkeys, I bet you all eat 30,000 poonanas a day
-- Dan The Man (June 27, 2004 5:11 PM)
think for yourself, don't let a fictional character guide you.
-- will (June 28, 2004 2:35 AM)
that includes jesus
-- will (June 28, 2004 2:37 AM)
your all slaves. you consume yourselves with thoughts that hold no relevence to you or anyone around.
-- god (June 30, 2004 9:05 AM)
All in good, pointless fun, is all I got to say.
-- idwita (July 1, 2004 1:56 AM)
do yourselfs a favor, dont belive the crap that the liberal and dog boy mike more are spewing and vote for bush!
-- gwb (July 4, 2004 3:10 PM)
How come everybody is making a big deal about the date of the dude's check. The real issue is the lovely buluga whale design printed on the check. Speaking of small toothed whales, GW Bush how no business being the president of our country. Go bulugas.
-- Jeromy S. (July 7, 2004 1:00 AM)
I thought the real issue was love? And I have a hard time finding much of it in mr GWB. I hope I'm wrong.
Be human, don't be a puppet of some politic puppeteer.
Democracy is getting old. I hope someone smart can come up with something better soon.
In the meantime, I'll be banging my drums.
-- Ehhrik (July 11, 2004 9:51 PM)
great post!! we caught this a couple weeks ago and i started searching around. i referenced your post in a post on our blog. (http://www.foursixteen.net/416/2004/08/the_big_lebowsk.html)
thanks for the great screenshot of the check!
-- vinnie (August 17, 2004 10:54 AM)
Speaking as a 'limey' I desperately hope you don't let that deranged monkey boy a second term look at the mess he's made so far, a second term will give him the mandate to f the blooming world given half the chance, they are nasty, very very nasty I can see it from here, if you can't you must be blind or faschist love Ted
-- ted (September 6, 2004 6:25 PM)
Glad to see I'm not the only one that noticed it...just running a second Google to see if I could figure out why that Bush clip was playing in the background.
Never caught the post-dated check angle (and I usually get things like that), but landlord's comment on rent puts it off the 11th. weird, though
Astonishing that some of the visitors think you created an entire website around this -- doh!!
And Ted -- we're doing the best we can -- thanks for understanding while we try to clean house...
-- BQ (September 13, 2004 6:36 PM)
Hi
-- Jonathan (November 3, 2004 2:59 PM)
The "Towards a New World Order"-Speech by Bush Sr. was on Sept.11.1990, so exactly 11 years before the "catastrophic and catalyzing event"(" - like a New Pearl Harbor"; "Rebuilding America´s Defenses"; www.newamericancentury.org).
Just look who sits in this Think Tank and everything concerning media coverage etc. should be absolutely clear and understandable for even the most sunburnt redneck in Texas.
TOOL ROCKS, and 10,000 Days SUX, but it´s okay if you enjoy it live(if you can´t stand the strobe)
-- g.hud (December 15, 2006 4:36 AM)